Tuesday, November 24, 2009

Preachers That Give Religion a Bad Name

One of the reasons I have for my distrust and sometimes disgust of some main stream American religions?  Too many devil preachers.  Those that celebrate the death penalty and hate the taliban and al qaeda, yet act like terrorists themselves.  It seems we have always had these kind of nutjobs from the religious preachers burning witches on the stake during the Salem Witch Trials, up to now.  But we don't have to like them and they should be exposed for what they are, or are not - spokesmen for Jesus.
Wiley Drake, pastor of First Southern Baptist Church in Buena Park, Calif., issued a press release Nov. 19 calling for an end to "imprecatory prayer" -- words of judgment from the Book of Psalms prayed back to God, directed toward Obama.
Drake attributed his change of heart to "spiritual counsel" of James David Manning, pastor at ATLAH World Missionary Church in New York, contained in a 16 1/2-minute video recorded Nov. 18.

"I have asked men everywhere please do you no harm," Manning said in remarks he addressed to "Barack Hussein the long-legged mack daddy Obama." According to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, "mack daddy" is slang for a slick womanizer or conspicuously successful pimp.
"I do not want to see anyone attempt, dream about, think about or ever discuss assassinating you," Manning continued. "It is most important to you and to my savior Jesus that you live, and that you live a long life, but that you live that we might be able to bring you to trial. You see if someone does you harm, and you are not able to be brought to trial, then we lose the opportunity of proving our statements that you are not the president of the United States of America. You are not. You are an illegal alien, a usurper."
Manning preached a series of harsh sermons last year against then-candidate Obama that prompted Americans United for the Separation of Church and State to ask the IRS to investigate him for violating rules governing tax-exempt charities against electioneering. He says he was visited by officials from the Department of Homeland Security after a recent video message in which he advised people who strongly oppose Obama to "be ready to die."
Drake, who was second vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention in 2006-2007, said he was also questioned in his home by the Secret Service after he said in a Fox News Radio interview June 2 with Alan Colmes that he was praying for Obama to die."

The Southern Baptist Convention, of which Rev. Wiley Drake was a very recent Vice-President is the world's largest Baptist denomination and the largest Protestant body in the US.  with over 16 million members and over 42,000 churches.
Story at Associated Baptist Press


  1. Again, both sides of the aisle have wacked out preachers. Did you see the documentary "Friends of God" narrated by Christian Amanpour? I rented it on DVD a few weeks back. She focused on the right side of the aisle: the so-called evangelicals. Very interesting & sometimes very frustrating--some people think America ought to become a Western style Christian theocracy. One thing that has always bothered me is seeing Democrats visiting black churches in droves with impunity, but when conservative churches cross the line in speaking from the pulpit for a specific candidate (the candidate isn't even in the church, the pastor mentions the name) that church is threatened with loss of tax exempt status. We live in a political climate which is beyond hypocritical--we as a nation seem to be suffering from multiple personality disorder.

  2. Sorry, I didn't see it, I like Christianne Amanpour. I think that normal, everyday Christians like myself get a bad rep from the idiot extremists on both sides. I guess a further point of mine would be that they give churches a bad name, and as such, have jaded my views. Believe it or not, I belong to the Methodist church on one side, and the Old Greek Orthodox church (very close to yours, I believe) on the other.
    I have always wanted to visit a black church, for the great music and clapping, but have not had the chance. When you bring up Western style Christian theocracy, it starts to remind me of Saddam Hussein. Here was a secular society, albeit run by a madman, but religious extremism was not involved in his running of the government. He had disdain for al-qaeda and the nut terrorists. Along we come, tear him down, and invite them to take over the country. Quite a conundrum, but turned out to be a big mistake. What drove that man? GWB? His faith, his certitude? I don't even hate him now, but sure am glad he's out.

  3. Wow, how weird you brought up Saddam Hussein. I was contemplating pretty much the same things you did, but I also remember the terrible fighting which erupted in Bosnia after the Iron Curtain came down. Why is it that it is the despots who keep the religious crazies in check? Can't we have a country with a strong leader who doesn't mistreat his people, and who also makes sure religious zealots don't go around killing each other???? Oh, and by the way, I knew I spelled Amanpour's first name incorrectly. I can never remember it.

  4. I'm not sure I spelled it correctly:)lol